
Why is it that the gay community considers bone thin young Gay White Men (GWM) 'Abercrombie and Fitch'. While at the same time young Gay Asian Men (GAM), with the exact body type, undesirable and worthless?
In America gay men are EXCLUSIVELY attracted to white European-type men. What is so ironic is that these same European gay men (that are so desirable in by U.S. gay men) more receptive to different races. That is because in Europe, people are far more open-minded to different cultures and races. It is a different cultural upbringing and mind-set, as you see many interracial couples on the street. But the American culture is solely focused on Caucasians. You see it on TV, print ads, magazines, and movies. Just about everywhere you see any media images. So gay men in the U.S. are brought up with the subliminal message that white is the only desirable race.
Add to that, the majority of gay men are obsessed with their body. Being toned and muscular is every gay man ticket to acceptance in the mainstream, barhopping, bathhouse-going, coke-snorting, Cher-loving, gay community. Once you are 'buff' you are in. So it should come as no surprise that many gay men are running to the gym in droves in hopes of being more marketable in the gay community. And an increasing number of these men are Asians. These are the GAM who refuses to give up hope. They are convinced that GWM are their saviors. Again, it is that deep insecurity that so many GAM carry with them. GAM hope to feel the acceptance, they crave so desperately from the gay community, by hooking up with a GWM. If we as GAM cannot control the racism in the gay community, the only other option is to be able to control they way we look. That is because GAM continually has to fight the stereotypes of being small, submissive, and gentle. In short a bottom. But does an Asian man redefining his own body really help? Put it this way. How many buff Asian faces do you see at a white party? It is pretty apropos that they call a party like that, since only white guys are allowed there!
It seems to me that that GAM is at the bottom of the totem pole no matter what our bodies looks like. The reason is that GAM do not have the body or facial features of Caucasians, so few white men appreciate the beauty of an Asian body. It is generally understood in the gay community that Caucasians want to stick with fellow Caucasians. That is why Latin, Hispanic, Native American and even South Asian men are higher on the totem pole with GWM. South Asian men's racial makeup comes from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Bangladesh, Nepal, and Maldives. That group has a very strong Caucasian body type and facial features. It is almost like they are Caucasian, but their body has been dyed a different color. So those men are considered exotic or multi-racial Caucasian men. It astounds me how white guys proclaim they are not racist, when it comes to dating or hooking up. They point to the fact that they date/sleep with South Asian guys. But these guys are Caucasian! Even on some gay hookup sites, under the heading “Looking For”, many guys check off the following boxes: African-American/Black, Hispanic, Multi-Racial, Other, White. The box with the heading “Asian” isn't checked off. Don't believe me. Next time you are on a gay hookup site, take a look. About 80% of the guys have checked off every race except Asian.
But many GAM still refuse to accept their low standing in the gay community. They are convinced if they buff up, white guys will accept them. So you have GAM working their bodies hard and eating almost nothing to achieve the perfection that is seen in the gay white community. You see so many GAM at the gym religiously, hoping to emulate the white boy body, thus being accepted. But even after a GAM achieves a perfect body, we still do not get any respect from GWM. It really blows my mind when I continually see white guys at the baths who are overweight, average looking, even with major acne problems ignoring good-looking, toned GAM, simply because they are a different race. At the baths, these mediocre overweight gay men will chase after other white guys, who are out of their league, rather than a good-looking Asian. Or they will hook up with each other, simply because they are the same race. All the while there are these muscular GAM at the baths, standing around and not even getting noticed! So what I am concluding is that GWM are not body obsessed, but rather race obsessed. I know of one very muscular Asian guy (Tim from GWM & GAM Speak Out!) that tells me:
(To view Tim's body, which he says is rejected by mediocre (his words) white guys on a regular basis, click here)
GAM who do not work out are separated into two body types: Bone-thin or pleasantly plump. However, there are also many GWM who fall into the exact same body type. And these GWM do not have any problems finding companionship at the baths, while GAM with the same body type are completely ignored. For instance I see a lot of bone-thin anorexic looking white guys at the baths and they do not seem to have any problems finding sex at the baths. These guys are considered Abercrombie & Fitch types. While many GAM with the exact same body type, are not even considered on the same wavelength. A toned, muscular GAM will face more discrimination in the gay community than an overweight GWM would. In fact, I see very little difference between the gym and the baths, in terms of the politics and culture between gay men. If wanted to know how it feels like at the baths, without actually going, just go to your nearest gym. It is exactly the same. All of the GWM stick together, talk together, and work out together. None of the GWM even bothers with, speaks to, or even looks at any GAM. These GWM are even friendlier to white men over sixty than a GAM in their own age bracket!
This is what I am concluding. If a gay man desperately wants to get off at the baths (Read When Desperation Sinks In) and has to choose between a perfect body and a guy ethnic background, race will win out every time. The proof of this is the bathhouse for href="http://www.bathhouseblues.com/rice_queens.html" title="Rice Queens">Rice Queens. I see so many good-looking, toned, muscular Asian men all standing around waiting for someone to notice them. While at the same time many of the white patrons (regardless of age or body type) are getting laid by record numbers. And again, just scroll up to look at Tim body, which he says is ignored by many mediocre GWM. In fact once when I was at the baths, I overheard this guy say, “Why are all the Asians here? Why do not they go to the (bathhouse for Rice Queens)?” Think that was an isolated incident? I do not have to remind you of the story I told in Rice Queens (being passed over for a retarded person).
You may be thinking, okay maybe I am targeting guys that just have certain fetishes. Try this story on for size. Once I saw a guy in his thirties who was the average looking gay yuppie. He was walking around ignoring every GAM who had a similar or better body than him. Then this young overweight guy showed up. The two promptly went to a room where they f**cked each other. I could overhear the moans and the groans and the proclamation that one of them had such a fine ass. You may be thinking, okay the gay yuppie is a chubby chaser. And I could accept that, because you do not choose whom you are attracted to. But two hours later he was hitting on a bony, rail thin forty-year old. What did all these men have in common? You guessed it they were all white. And that is not an isolated incident.
Orgies and private sex parties have always fascinated me.. For years I've tried to get invited to one. I registered on a gay hook-up site that features such parties. But I was denied an invitation to every single party I requested an invite for. Sometimes I would notice a party that hardly had any participants signed up. I would sign up a few days before, and still get rejected. One guy only had three guys signed up for his party, and I still got rejected for an invite. On his profile he said he was interested in African-American/Black, Hispanic, Multi-Racial, Other and White. He too, didn't check off the box that said 'Asian'
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Great blog and posts. Helped me when I went today to a bathhouse for the first (and probably last) time. Your descriptions/advice helped.
I think racism is prevalent everywhere, although I would think blacks would have as difficult a time as Asians, simply because of the racial history of this country. I also found your pessimistic post ironic, since I was rejected by everyone I encountered today, including an Asian. So much for “desperate Asians” (I’m white, for the record).
You went on an ‘off-night’. Give it time, and try again. I guarantee some Asians will mob you, if you go again.
Perhaps. I’m a bit overweight, so I’m not sure how “mobbed” I’d be. I like Asians though, so I’d be good with that.
This really pisses me off when you (cute) asian men call yourselves worthless and un attractive!
Jesus freaking Christ guys – I (and I KNOW I’m not the only one) find asian men VERY attractive.
I’m rather upset because (believe it or not) – I’m turned down ALOT by asians! This ‘gotta please’ the old white guy is BS -period! Maybe you’re still living in the 90′s?
Many many times my age (43) becomes a MAJOR deal breaker. I see young asians, and they almost always go with people NEAR their age.
Do me a favor an take your head out from under that rock – and open your eyes wider while your at it – you should see what I mean.